JAMs: A Taste of Sydney's Music Scene
JAMs: A Taste of Sydney's Music Scene
Ep. 2 - Shenoa
Shenoa’s music tastes like Rainbow Crystallised Strawberry Jam. From our never released disaster EP to Shenoa now going solo with her EP ‘Love & Leaving’ out 7 Feb. We talk about feeling comfortable and safe in your collaborations with other artists, producers & mixers, sisterhood and reflect on our past musical career together over the past almost 15 years.
Come join some old friends talking about new Sydney music.
[JAMs THEME MUSIC]
Sam
Hello and welcome back to JAMs: A Taste of Sydney’s Music Scene. I am your host Sam from JAMs - Sydney’s new music family, aiming to build a thriving music scene and community in the greatest city in the world. Sam that I interviewed in Ep 1 would love for you to get behind that #gcitw (greatest city in the world).
So we’re back with another first time artist who is about to release their first music into the universe, Shenoa. This episode makes me feel so happy. For those who don’t know I used to be in a duo called Sam & Shenoa...and you guessed it this is my other half. Our musical journeys have been so intertwined - we lived on the same block growing up, played in our first band together, wrote music together, both played the cello and piano and the list goes on.
It was so lovely catching up with Shenoa and hearing about all the wonderful things she’s doing as a solo artist. As a woman, musician and a student at SAE in Byron Bay for the past year - she gives a unique perspective.
Shenoa’s first EP ‘Love & Leaving’ is out 7th of February - so get on those pre-save links or depending when you’re listening to this - go listen now!
This episode I interviewed Shenoa in her new creative space, her new apartment!
So let’s get to it…
So my first month of podcasts, the theme is ‘firsts’ or ‘first time’. So it’s my first time interviewing people and this is your first time releasing your music. It’s all very exciting...
Shenoa
Yeah, and first time being interviewed I think, as an artist.
Sam
Oh exciting!
And it’s the first time I’m interviewing you.
Yeah, so you have two songs out at the moment.
Shenoa
Yeah
Sam
So take me through them. So we have, what was it? Walk Away and Surreal that just came out…
Shenoa
Yeah.
Sam
Um, how does that feel? Having your music out?
Shenoa
It’s cool. It’s like a little nerve wracking and it feels ‘surreal’, to reference my own track. But yeah, it’s so weird but really exciting.
Sam
Exciting. Um, so you have an EP coming out.
Shenoa
Yep.
Sam
How many tracks on your EP?
Shenoa
I’ve got four. So I’ve got three that are full songs and then I’ve got one that’s a freestyle kind of jam.
Sam
So for some background, all the people I’ve interviewed this month I know personally and as friends. Me and Shenoa actually used to play together and we used to play in a band together when we were children. And we sang in a duo together for five years I think. So I was going to actually ask you about what the difference is and how it feels? We spent so much time playing together and now you’re doing your solo thing. What things do you prefer or don’t prefer? What’s different?
Shenoa
Yeah. I mean it’s kind of funny talking to you about it because I used to sing with you.
Sam
That’s okay I won’t be offended.
Shenoa
Well, there’s a lot of differences. I feel like when you are in a band and you are playing with someone, you do have to take into consideration what everyone wants to do for themselves. And I feel like especially for me, being so young I didn’t even know what I wanted to do. Having to think about what other people wanted to do. I found that really confusing. So I feel like it’s cool to be in a space where I can just kind of focus on myself and my growth. Know that, you know, that everything I’m exploring is for me.
Sam
Yeah
Shenoa
So that’s, I guess, is the main difference.
Sam
You find your own sound, I guess, on your own. Which I think is really important because when you’re young it’s hard to know that about you. And if you’re only playing with other people all the time you’re not quite sure what you sound like.
Shenoa
Totally. Yeah, and I’m still so young. So I feel like I’m still figuring myself out and I feel like there’s a lot more that I’m going to figure out.
Sam
Describe, kind of, your sound and your genre and maybe your influences. I know you love Ariana.
Shenoa
Yeah, I mean I go through different influences all the time. But lately, especially when I was making the EP I was listening to a lot of Ariana, a lot of kind of soul, RnB, like, neo soul artists. Ari Lennox, Shea Butter Baby, I love that album. And what else was I listening to? A lot of Dua Lipa. A lot of kind of break up songs…
Sam
Love Dua Lipa.
Shenoa
…’cause I was kind of going through a bit of a break up. So, a lot of that kind of bad bitch vibe.
[sound of jam hitting plate]
Sam
Her music sounds like rainbow crystallised strawberry jam.
Shenoa
I feel like it’s all my different vibes coming together. If you listen to it and you hear all my different voices, all my different harmonies that make this up. So that’s the rainbow part of it. Just all the different colours of Shenoa. Um, and strawberry crystallised...I feel like it’s just a vibe.
Sam
Yeah. And I feel like, like you said that bad bitch vibe, it’s that pink.
Shenoa
Yeah.
[Clip of ‘Surreal’ by Shenoa plays]
Sam
There’s a lot of synthy, electronic vibes in your music, I guess than what we used to do which was very acoustic. Is that because of the music that you’ve been listening to or influenced by or is that something that you’re exploring now or?
Shenoa
I started studying synthy electric music. So I started studying at SAE. I was doing music production. So they really just took us through Ableton and honestly I didn’t even plan on writing an EP. I was just in the studio because I was experimenting with all the sounds that they were teaching us. So I was just making beats, then somehow if I got really emotional I’d just start freestyling into the mic. I was in there so much that I just came out with a few songs. And eventually some of my friends were like ‘you should just release an EP’. So, I did it!
It wasn’t a plan, it just happened I guess.
Sam
Well this leads me into the next bit of how you write your music, your writing process. Like you just said that you, you know, when you’re just feeling feelings you go and freestyle, is that how you write? Or how you wrote this EP?
Shenoa
I feel like it varies every single time. Usually it’s when I’m feeling a really strong emotion. And so with ‘Love & Leaving’, which is the title track of my EP, I was really in the depths of my emotion. All this shit was happening, corona had just really hit and the only thing that made me feel kind of like normal at that time was just writing a song.
And yeah, normally it’s just when I’m feeling a really strong emotion and that’s what carries me through. ‘Cause what the fuck else am I going to do right now? I’m just going to write a song.
Sam
And how long does it normally take? Do you get it all out in one go? And then you’re like done, full song? Or do you come back to it and work at it?
Shenoa
Normally, for this EP especially I just wanted to get it all done. So I’ll have a creation process and I’ll go in, I’ll be in my creative mode, so I’ll just sing, freestyle, whatever. Write down the lyrics and then sing the lyrics and get it recorded. So I just create and record at the same time. Um, and then I like to just separate that from the mixing process. So I’ll get it all created and then step out of the studio, have a bit of a break and then the next session that I come in I’ll start refining it. But normally I’ll try and get it...I think for all the songs I did I recorded each of the songs all in one session
[Sound of jar lid popping off]
Sam
Tell me about your musical journey from when it started ‘till now.
Shenoa
Where did I start? I started singing pretty much since I was just tiny. I don’t even remember what age I started singing. And then, yeah, I just got into music really young. Starting playing piano when I was about four. And yeah, then I was in a band with Sam. How old were we?
Sam
I was like nine I think. 2006.
Shenoa
So I would have been like seven or eight.
We were just really tiny and really awkward.
Sam
Do not google this.
Shenoa
Yeah, don’t google us. It’s just an awkward phase in our lives.
But I guess I learned a lot from it and then kind of continued music through high school. I had a bit of a patch where I was just really embarrassed because I played the cello and I had to bring the cello to school everyday on the bus.
Sam
Rude. Cello is amazing.
Shenoa
No! But people were mean. Highschoolers are mean.
I kind of stopped doing music and then came back to it. Started singing with Sam, did some gigs and um...my brain’s just gone blank.
Sam
Well I mean I can fill in. Yeah, we sang together and we did, we played lots of gigs and weddings and we started our EP and then it didn’t work out how we wanted it to, we’ll get to that. And then from there to now I don’t know.
Shenoa
Yeah, after high school, had a gap year, started doing some solo gigs by myself which was definitely a new experience. And then I moved to Byron and I wasn’t even planning on doing or studying music when I first moved to Byron. I was actually doing a film course. So I just wanted to do something different. But everyone kept being like ‘why aren’t you doing music?’ because I’d always sing and jam and stuff.
So, studied music again...I studied music at the con as well for a year but it was a little bit strict and regimented.
Sam
And different, yeah.
Shenoa
So I just wanted a bit more of a chillaxed approach to making music, which I definitely got from Byron. Recorded my EP, back in Sydney now and here we are!
Sam
And now we’re now.
[sound of spoon hitting a jar]
Sam
What made you want to pursue music? More than just a hobby?
Shenoa
Honestly, I don’t know. I just like singing. That’s literally it. I just have fun singing, when I’m doing it and when I’m with other people and I feel safe and comfortable when I’m singing, then it just feels like that’s where I’m meant to be. It just feels like a flow.
Sam
I feel like that’s nice, like you said, how you were trying to do film or something else and it’s like you get brought back to it.
Shenoa
Yeah, I mean…
Sam
Can’t escape it.
Shenoa
Yeah, I can’t escape it! I mean music, it’s not everything that I am but it is a very big part of me and what I enjoy doing in this world.
Sam
And I guess how you express your feelings.
Shenoa
Yeah, it’s how I naturally...if I’m feeling a really strong emotion then I’ll normally turn to music. I’ll listen to music or I’ll create it.
Sam
How has covid affected you?
Shenoa
Well, covid actually...I feel like if it wasn’t for covid I don’t think I would have made this EP. Because it just forced me into a space of more isolation and there wasn’t much to do, you know, to go out in town and do. So, a lot of the time...and I was still living at SAE which has its own studios.
Sam
Yeah. That’s pretty cool.
Shenoa
Yeah, it was a pretty good space to be in for lockdown. ‘Cause I would just book the studios all the time and just spend...the studio became my safe space. I would just spend time there and create music. And create my own little bubble where it was just my vibe and didn’t have to worry about anything that was going on outside.
Sam
You’re allowed to like covid a little bit. I definitely did.
Shenoa
I actually enjoyed that part of it, I liked that I was able to do that.
Sam
Yeah, and has covid sort of changed your perception of your own music and other people’s music? For me, for example, in terms of other people’s music I realised how much I miss going to gigs and how much I could’ve been doing more to support other people’s music and go out there. And it’s not until it was taken away from me, I was like ‘damn, I should’ve gone to that gig’ and all that kind of stuff.
Shenoa
I guess for me, I don’t know, I think it was kind of different because I was living on a campus full of musicians. So if I wanted to hear someone play live I would just go outside my door and I’d hear Tiago playing or Jack making his beats. I guess I was lucky in that I didn’t miss the live music aspect. I would say that I did miss being in a big crowd of people and just vibing.
[Sound of spoon hitting jar]
Sam
How has producing your own music been? Because for very mild context we’ve had really fucking terrible…
Shenoa
Haha “for very mild context”.
Sam
We’ve had...when we tried to record our own EP it did not go well. And we had to work with a lot of other producers and that didn’t…
Shenoa
Yeah, no one really, we didn’t really talk about this publicly...it kind of just faded.
Sam
Yeah we just disappeared off Facebook.
Shenoa
Yeah haha.
Sam
I’m definitely going to go into this in March, when my theme for March is womxn. Shenoa’s going to co-host the podcast with me.
Power imbalances of musician and producer or musician and recorder, and a lot of the time it’s men being the producers and how that creates a really awkward dynamic. And for us personally that didn’t work out. So, I guess, does it feel empowering to be able to do your own music and produce your own music?
Shenoa
It’s so good. Like, you don’t have to ask. I mean especially when you’re exploring your own sound. ‘Cause I was just launched into space when we were first doing our EP. I didn’t know what I wanted. So anytime anyone suggested an idea, I’d be like ‘yeah I guess’. I didn’t even know what that meant, so I was like ‘okay…’, ended up with something completely random. I think it’s just so important and so empowering to be able to discover what it is that you like when it comes to music. And then, you know, understand how to make it and then when you have an idea you don’t have to go through all these channels to get it to come out because you just know how to do it, it takes you two seconds. You don’t have to be like ‘oh, could you do this? And maybe this?’. You just do it yourself.
Sam
And not bruise the ego of whoever you’re talking to.
Shenoa
Exactly and it takes two seconds.
When you don’t know what’s happening, you don’t know what’s happening. So it seems really complicated and seems really complex. But as soon as you have that information, it’s not that hard!
Sam
Is that something you encourage other musicians to do? ‘Cause that’s something that I want to do through JAMs as well, is start making events and things and some that are educational that people can learn these skills. Computers are not everyone’s thing, so some people find it a lot harder. Is that something you encourage people to explore,? Produce their own stuff so they at least know what’s happening?
Shenoa
Yeah, definitely. At least have a little bit…’cause that’s what I kind of do. I got to a point where, okay I’ve learnt everything that I want to know for now and then I can always work with other people and then kind of direct them in the direction that I want. If I want a certain sound I know the term to say.
Sam
Yeah, I think that’s so important to know the terminology instead of just sort of, kind of vaguely describe it and they don’t know what you’re saying and then you feel...they think that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Shenoa
Yeah, exactly.
Sam
I could go on, but I won’t.
Sam
We could go on for hours!
[Sound of jar lid popping off]
Sam
Well, I’ve been listening to your songs the last few days and I was going to ask you about the...you know the excerpt at the beginning of
Both
SURREAL haha.
Shenoa
Well, the entire song ‘Surreal’ is just being in a space where you’re kind of detached from your body. And because you’re not really fully there, everything is kind of happening but you’re not really inside your body. So you can’t feel what’s happening. And as I said in the song “all over again, I get older again”. Time keeps passing you by. It’s like when you get triggered and you get thrown out of your body for a second. Sometimes that second becomes longer and that’s, I guess, what happened to me. That’s what I wrote a song about.
Sam
The excerpt at the beginning, was that made for your song? Or was it an actual…
Shenoa
No. Okay, so that, I had my intro for the song. And originally I had an excerpt from some movie. And it kind of worked but it didn’t really...I think it was from the Matrix. It was like ‘yeah but mm’. And then at the time I was going through a weird, semi-break up thing with a guy and he sent me a voice memo. I think a lot of my emotions were centred around this relationship. So, I just put it in one time just to see how it would sound and it kind of worked. Like weirdly, the rhythm of how he was talking and it worked with the drums and I was like ‘this kind of works!’.
Sam
Destiny.
Shenoa
I just left it in there.
Sam
Is he okay with it?
Shenoa
Oh, yeah he’s fine with it. He doesn't even care.
Sam
What about ‘Walk Away’?
Shenoa
Oh my gosh. This is so embarrassing, all my songs are about guys.
Sam
MEN.
Shenoa
Okay, so this is about another guy. I haven’t really decided if I want to publicly speak about my personal experiences when it comes to songs. ‘Cause I kind of want them to mean what they need to mean to people.
[Sound of jar lid turning]
Sam
So, this is your first release and you’ve sort of gone through some of the process now, you’ve released two songs. What have you learnt so far through this whole process of writing, recording, release?
Shenoa
I was a little bit surprised to find how easy it can be to just record a song by yourself. You have the idea and you just press some buttons. And once you know what the buttons mean then you just press the buttons.
Something I wish I knew was to just do everything you can and then just stop. ‘Cause I got to a point with a lot of the songs, I was spending so long trying to mix them and trying to get them perfect but I think for me that’s not where my strength is. My strength is in more of the creating side. You know, I can mix things to an extent but then my interest just doesn’t really go further.
Sam
Yeah, so did you end up...did someone else mix it or?
Shenoa
So I mixed it to a certain level and then once I’d got it all done the most that I could do...I did like a hundred mixes of ‘Walk Away’, I did so many and then I’d listen to it and I’d be like ‘something’s not right’ and then I’d go back and change it. But it just got to a point where I was like ‘I need someone else’s ears on this’. I can’t just have my own because different people are going to be listening to this, my ears have their own preference and all that.
Sam
Yeah that’s a big thing, a big core thing with JAMs is about how music needs to be collaborated on and even if you want to have your own project and things to come from yourself, there’s always a part in the process that involves other people. Building a community of people that will help make the music better.
Sam
Yeah, but I think the best thing that I’ve found about working this way, being more of a solo artist, is that you can do everything you want to do. And then when you come to collaborate with other people, you’re collaborating as you. And you kind of have that separation there.
Sam
Yeah, like a choice of when to bring people in.
Shenoa
Yeah a choice. Exactly! And in what aspects you want people to be brought in. So for me, that was for mixing and mastering and just final stages of mixing and then all of mastering which I got my friend Anj to do. And she’s so good! I was so happy to find a female mixer.
Sam
Yes, that’s what we talked about that time we were messaging. And I was like ‘you just need a girl’.
Shenoa
I know! ‘Cause I’ve worked with a lot of male mixers. Those experiences were just…
Sam
Yeah, we’re not saying…
Shenoa
We’re not saying all men! We’re just saying some! But I think it was nice to have that kind of sisterhood and like…
Sam
Yeah, I think it’s a different energy.
Shenoa
Yeah, it’s a different level of understanding because, you know, the way that you communicate is going to be inherently different. Especially with Anj I felt a deep level of understanding and she was also able to tell me when I would get really perfectionist about things. She’d be like ‘I think you’re over thinking it’ and I could step back and be like ‘okay’. That was probably one of the best collaborations, so that was cool.
Sam
That’s something I want to talk about more in March! It’s really important thing that a lot of music industry spaces are dominated by men. Obviously they’re skilled at their jobs and all that kind of stuff. Women do communicate differently and have different things that they focus on.
Shenoa
Different energy to bring forward.
Sam
Yeah, and it’s really, sometimes, difficult, particularly when it’s really vulnerable, music is very vulnerable it’s hard to share it with someone who might not quite understand or communicate in a way you can with them.
Shenoa
Yeah, I feel like it’s important to feel safe and comfortable in your collaboration.
Sam
It is.
[Sound of jam hitting a plate]
Sam
So, what was your first CD that you ever had?
Shenoa
First CD? I think it was Guy Sebastian. I think it was the one where he’s got really frizzy hair
Sam
That’s not even embarrassing, that’s wonderful.
Shenoa
I think. And yeah, he’s on Australian Idol.
Sam
Yeah, Australian artist! Mine was Rogue Traders, so, so good.
Who was your first favourite artist you remember loving?
Shenoa
Taylor Swift. I loved, I still love her. She’s so amazing. I saw her Reputation tour thing and I just cried. I was like...this was like a year ago, I was just crying and I sent snapchats to everyone who knew me like ‘have you seen this? This is amazing’.
Sam
First concert you ever went to.
Sam
Taylor Swift I think. I’m pretty sure. Yeah, I went with my friends when I was 12.
Sam
Didn’t your dad bring you? Was your dad one of those concert dads?
Shenoa
Let’s not talk about that.
Sam
What was your first instrument you learnt how to play?
Shenoa
Piano.
Sam
Um, and then what was something that you did for the first time this year? Anything, doesn’t have to be music related.
Sam
The first time...OH I signed a lease on my first apartment!
Both
Which we are in!
[Sound of lid popping off jar]
Sam
So, what has been your experience and involvement in the Sydney music scene?
Shenoa
I haven’t really done too much in the Sydney music scene as a solo artist yet. But, I guess growing up I did a few gigs with Sam. We did quite a few gigs, we did weddings and restaurants...I think we took it a lot for granted at the time because it was just coming to us. And we’re like ‘oh this is cool’.
Sam
Yeah, that’s so true. I talk to people now and they’re really skilled musicians but they don’t actually have much gig experience.
And I tell them things and they’re like ‘oh I didn’t know that’.
Shenoa
What kind of things?
Sam
Just things about the venues and if people want to put on actual gigs with tickets and all that kind of stuff. It’s just very foreign to people. Stuff that we just, we did as 10 year old children.
Shenoa
I feel like I...just a personal thing I guess. I want to learn how to interact more with the audience. I feel like a lot of the time when we’d play gigs I’d just feel so uncomfortable. And I feel like that’s kind of another thing, honestly, about being a female.
Sam
Do you think that, that’s something that the Sydney music scene can work on. Finding spaces where you can feel that comfortable?
Shenoa
Yeah, well I guess that’s a journey that I’m probably yet to embark on, just finding the spaces for me where I feel comfortable playing. And whether that’s a more accepting environment or…
Sam
And what would you like the music and arts scene in Sydney to be like?
Shenoa
I just, I hope it’s really accepting. ‘Cause when people come on stage they’re being really vulnerable and they’re sharing this really vulnerable aspect of their lives and themselves, especially if they’re performing original music. And it takes a lot. It takes a lot to be able to, you know, go through that process. Write a song, and get it up there. I just hope there’s more that can recognise everyone’s efforts. I feel like a lot of the time people are like ‘oh you’re a musician’. People don’t really realise how much time you can put into it. You know, before a gig you’ll be practising for hours and, you know, it’s a lot.
Sam
So I guess a more engaged music scene of people who…’cause I think a lot of people are like ‘ugh $10 ticket??’ or whatever and they don’t really understand that this is a real job and they put so many hours in and like I don’t know how many hours we both put in into music in our lives. It’s a lot.
Shenoa
Yeah, maybe that awareness of that time and energy.
Sam
So details of release. Do you have a name for your EP or anything like that yet?
Shenoa
Yep. So the name of my EP is ‘Love & Leaving’.
Sam
And you said release probably in February.
What is the future for Shenoa?
Shenoa
The future, I hope, is just going to be a lot of fun. A lot of fun gigs, more music, more collaborations and just bringing everybody along on this really fun ride.
Sam
Talking about collaboration, I was going to ask. I forgot to ask about the rapper in ‘Walk Away’.
Shenoa
Oh yeah! That’s my friend G who is called Gard.
Sam
How did the collaboration happen? Does he have other music?
Shenoa
We just went to SAE together, we were both staying on accommodation. We just jammed, we just jammed a lot and it was fun.
So, yeah, that’s his first official record that’s out
Sam
Ooh exciting.
Shenoa
Yeah, which is exciting and we’re actually about to release another one. So this is also with our friend Tiago. So it’ll be Tiago, Gard and me. Which will probably come out before my EP.
Sam
I guess you said that you wrote the song from a personal place and he’s got his part in your song. How does that kind of collaboration work?
Shenoa
That was interesting. ‘Cause I actually...I was in the studio that day and then a lot of people were just...I somehow invited a bunch of people into the studio. I didn’t even mean to. And then all of sudden there were all these people there. And G was there and I was like oh. When I’m creating I’m just like ‘oh yeah, whatever, just drop stuff in’. So, he did his bit and it seemingly just lined up with what I was saying and it was just talking about a lot of the themes I did want the song to be about. And I thought that was really cool ‘cause we didn’t plan it, he;d already written the verse at a different time. He didn’t know it was going to be in the song.
So, we just recorded it and it worked! And it was in one take I’m pretty sure. I’m pretty sure it was one take. I was like ‘woo!’, that’s why at the end I’m like “oh my gosh that was so cool!”, you can hear it in the song ‘cause I’m like ‘woah!’.
Sam
Before we go can you give me two artists that you recommend from Sydney.
Shenoa
From Sydney...
Sam
Or local, from Australia.
Shenoa
I can give you from Australia. I’d say Tiago Freitas. He’s awesome. We’ve got a song coming out, so look out for that. I have a lot of artist friends, you guys should listen to Jack Navin, it’s j.navin. He’s also a really cool producer. I love his songs. He’s got so much music up there.
Sam
So, for other artists who are just starting out or thinking about doing their EP but are not sure, do you have any words of encouragement for them?
Shenoa
I reckon just go for it. Find a space where you feel comfortable and where you can feel you can express yourself and just do it! It’s fun. Not to be cheesy but we have one life! So just do it and have fun with it and...yeah, I really want everyone to just achieve their, like do their dreams and just do what you love doing. Because there’s not really any other time other than life, this life that we know of that we’re going to be able to do it. So, just give it a go. Might as well. There are challenges that come with it. But I feel like when you’re doing something that you’re aligned with and that your soul’s purpose wants to be aligned with then the challenges are worth it.
Sam
Thank you for letting me interview you. Hyped to co-host the podcast with you in March.
Shenoa
Yeah, that’ll be awesome.
Sam
We can rant about men. Bye.
Shenoa
Thank you. Bye.
Sam
Thanks for listening right to the end of this JAMs episode!
Hope you had a fun time hearing all about Shenoa!
Don’t forget to keep your ears ready for Shenoa’s new EP ‘Love & Leaving’ out on the 7th of February - go click the pre-save link on our website or follow her instagram @its.shenoa to keep up to date.
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Special thanks to Euan Chaffey for making this groovy theme music that, FUN FACT, was created with only the sound of a jam jar and the homemade jam inside it.
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